Hair Care Weblog

Hi ladies,
I have been watching the discussion re: the difficulty level in
maintaining natural vs. permed hair. Personally, I put in thousands of
hours, and dollars, trying to keep my permed hair looking "right."
When I first went natural, I continued to pour a lot of time into
styling my hair. However, after awhile I got used to lower maintenance
styles such as box braids or twists. They took 3-4 hours to put in
(compared to all day Saturday touching up or washing and styling with
a perm), but they last me 2-4 weeks just by wearing a scarf at night
and applying oil in the morning (versus recurling every other day with
hot curlers with a perm).
Over time, I have found my natural hair easier to work with, BUT, I
think it has more to do with the comfort level than the actual
difficulty or ease of maintainence. I wore my hair permed from 9 to
19, and within those 10 years, my day-to-day process was pretty down
pat. After 1 month of natural, I thought - oh my goodness this is so
much arduous work!! Now, after 8 years of natural, I am back to near
total comfort (always more to learn) with caring for my natural hair.
It is definitely within the realm of "easy" now.
So I say all that to say, have patience, I have a feeling it *will*
get easier.
KC

Hi Tamara--

I can imagine that planning and caring for natural hair can be more time consuming if you are used to a relaxer. In my case, natural hair is easier because my hair is loced. And now that it has finally grown long again, I have more styling options.

I remember spending long hours braiding and styling my hair as a teenager with natural hair. The first few years of having a relaxer seemed easy. But I somehow wasn't happy with my hair, or with myself.

Natural hair does take a lot of work to style and to keep it healthy. The important thing is, you indicated that you love your hair enough to spend the extra time on it. And when you love your hair, that makes all the difference.

Tobi
Tamara Prosper <tgprosper@...

I wish I could say my natural hair is easier to care for than when it was permed, but I can't. In all honesty it is much more time consuming and I worried about what to do with my hair a lot less when it was relaxed. I'm still glad that I am wearing my hair the way God gave it to me, but I just don't understand how so many people talk about how much easier it is. It's significantly harder for me. With a relaxer I never thought much about what to do with my hair. I relaxed it myself every 6-8 weeks and went to a salon every 3 months for a trim. Sometimes I wraped it, roller set it or curled it with a curling iron in the morning. Sometimes I wet set it in braids and wore it crinkly the next day. If I just didn't have any time or energy It pulled it back into a bun or a ponytail. Sometimes I just let it hang straight. If I was going to do anything special I just did it at bedtime the night before. It was EASY! But all of those styles took less than half the time and planning
that goes into my current styles. My favorites are 2-strand twists (at least 3 hours), cornrows (30 minutes to 4 hours depending on detail) and the afro-puff (at least 15 minutes rake through and brush it all into a neat puff). Sometimes I blow dry and flat iron it and that takes hours. I took good care of my hair when it was permed so I can't say that looks healthier. My hair was long when permed so I can't say that it grows better now. This is not to discourage anyone because I am natural for life and I give credit to anyone who wants to do the same. I encourage everyone to wear their natural hair. I love it enough to spend all this extra time even when I've been tempted to take the easy route and relax it. I just wonder if I'm the only one who feels like natural hair is much more time-consuming than relaxed hair.

Be a blessing to someone and you will be blessed

[INLINE] Tamara Gaskins Prosper

Great article! Could you provide the link to this? I know some
folks I would like to send this to.

hello, ladies:

i have so enjoyed all of the comments about how folks respond to you and your natural hair. i have been on the journey for 15 months. i feel blessed because there are other african women in my office who are natural and/or wearing locks..

and today, i am sporting nubian knots. count them. nine beautiful nappy knots on my head and i am loving it. doesn't matter what folks say. or what they think. i am free. free. the way God intended. stay strong.

Hello all,
I just thought I would pass this info along(see email below).
Some of you may have heard of the Collective. A friend of mine heads
up the group. They are a talented group of individuals and if you
love spoken word then you may want to check them out. I try to make
some of the events.
The collective's site is: www.thecollective.ws
Also, my friend who heads up the collective is releasing a spoken
word CD. Here is the link to that. You can listen to some, if not
all of the pieces: www.cdbaby.com/cd/josephusiii

I heard this song on the Russ Parr morning show and I had to share
it. I found an online link to a free stream:
http://www.mp3.com/india.arie/artists/438608/summary.html
The song is called " I am not my hair". I think you will enjoy it!

This story was sent to you by: Tobi-Velicia Johnson
Interesting article found in the WomanNews section of the Chicago Tribune.

Hi Cheryl,
I have the book Queens, and I enjoy it. But it's not what I expected. I had hoped for a coffee table book, but it's quite small -- about 8" by 8". And, many, perhaps more than half, of the women inside have relaxed hair. I bought it form an amazon merchant for $10, so I don't really mind, but if I had seen it in person before buying it, I wouldn't have bought it.
Brunsli
http://brunsli.blogspot.com/

On 11/30/05, Archivist2008 (Cheryl) <archivist2008@...

Hi All:

I can't wait to get the book. It is called "Queens" and a "coffee-table type book. The photo of an elder woman with all gray locs (or are they braids) is so very beautiful. It reminds me of the older sisters who helped me to start my Locs 14 yrs ago. Their advice was golden. When you go to the http://www.niaonline.com website about the book and article you need to register first. It is well worth joining.

Hope to hear lots of comments about the article and book.

Relaxed or Natural? Ask the "Queens"
Are you comfortable with your crowning glory? A new book explores the relationship between Black women and their hair

Peace/Blessings,

Cheryl (Maryland)

What Others Think Of ME...Is Not My Business [INLINE]

Hi Shelia--

I am so glad your company president did something about the situation. I believe that, in most companies, a white president would have acted like he couldn't understand why a black person would be offended by that comment, that it was "only a description".

And I'm proud that your coworker reported that remark. It's encouraging to know that there's a lot of black people willing to stand up and speak.

Tobi
Shelia Edwards <sheliaedwards2003@...

I work in a small office with about five black women, and the rest are white women. One day while I was at another building, one of the white co-workers referred to me as

"heavy-set and with black people's hair on top of her head". My black coworker who sits in front of me heard her telling a new white employee this.She said that she did not refer to the white coworker as a "white woman with white people's hair when she referred to a white coworker". She emailed the Vice Pesident of the company and the owner who are both white. They said that her referral to me was against company policy and the human resource person had to counsel her about office ethics. She did not mean any harm by it, but they wanted her to avoid the same mistake occurring. She did not realize that what she said was inappropriate. She is making an effort to improve her ways.

I have just started being comfortable enough to wear my hair out naturally in afros and twist outs since the last three weeks. I feel so much freedom. Of course, I meet opposition to sisters at college and work. I have gotten some stares and comments, but I feel comfortable with who I am and how God made me. I tell them that if they are uncomfortable with my hair talk to God about it because he made me the way I am. I noticed people feel uncomfortable with change and with you when you feel bold enough to be different. I think that my hair is more beautiful and versatile natural than with relaxers. I always tell people that since I have gotten closer to God and incorporating natural foods in my life; I have been delivered from the Willie Lynch Syndrome. Most blacks are stuck in the slavery mentalilty, and do not feel comfortable with themselves and their natural hair. They believe that their hair has to have the life straightened out of it to be beautiful. I know
sisters who have scalp diseases such as ezcema, seborraehic dermatitis, sores, falling hair and bald spots to have straight hair from relaxers. Most women are being forced to go natural to stop from going bald. They have to face men saying put a relaxer in your hair. They are finally standing firm and saying I will not put a relaxer in my hair because I do not want to go bald.

Stay strong and be yourself because you are beautiful!!!

In a message dated 11/29/2005 3:33:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, Anothercard writes:

I work in a small office with about five black women, and the rest are white women. One day while I was at another building, one of the white co-workers referred to me as

"heavy-set and with black people's hair on top of her head". My black coworker who sits in front of me heard her telling a new white employee this.She said that she did not refer to the white coworker as a "white woman with white people's hair when she referred to a white coworker". She emailed the Vice Pesident of the company and the owner who are both white. They said that her referral to me was against company policy and the human resource person had to counsel her about office ethics. She did not mean any harm by it, but they wanted her to avoid the same mistake occurring. She did not realize that what she said was inappropriate. She is making an effort to improve her ways.

I have just started being comfortable enough to wear my hair out naturally in afros and twist outs since the last three weeks. I feel so much freedom. Of course, I meet opposition to sisters at college and work. I have gotten some stares and comments, but I feel comfortable with who I am and how God made me. I tell them that if they are uncomfortable with my hair talk to God about it because he made me the way I am. I noticed people feel uncomfortable with change and with you when you feel bold enough to be different. I think that my hair is more beautiful and versatile natural than with relaxers. I always tell people that since I have gotten closer to God and incorporating natural foods in my life; I have been delivered from the Willie Lynch Syndrome. Most blacks are stuck in the slavery mentalilty, and do not feel comfortable with themselves and their natural hair. They believe that their hair has to have the life straightened out of it to be beautiful. I know
sisters who have scalp diseases such as ezcema, seborraehic dermatitis, sores, falling hair and bald spots to have straight hair from relaxers. Most women are being forced to go natural to stop from going bald. They have to face men saying put a relaxer in your hair. They are finally standing firm and saying I will not put a relaxer in my hair because I do not want to go bald.

Stay strong and be yourself because you are beautiful!!!

Regarding Qhemet Boilogics I ordered 4 of their products at your suggestion,and they are wonderful. I have 4a hair and my hair stays soft and moist all day long. The detangler is especially nice..I think this will be my product of choice from now on. Thank you. Valerie

Hi All:

I can't wait to get the book. It is called "Queens" and a "coffee-table type book. The photo of an elder woman with all gray locs (or are they braids) is so very beautiful. It reminds me of the older sisters who helped me to start my Locs 14 yrs ago. Their advice was golden. When you go to the http://www.niaonline.com website about the book and article you need to register first. It is well worth joining.

Hope to hear lots of comments about the article and book.

Relaxed or Natural? Ask the "Queens"
Are you comfortable with your crowning glory? A new book explores the relationship between Black women and their hair

Peace/Blessings,

Cheryl (Maryland)

What Others Think Of ME...Is Not My Business [INLINE]

Hi Everybody--

The everyday questions Karyn mentioned when dealing with relaxed hair reminded me of a dire hair situation I had about 4 years ago:

There were only 12 people who worked at my agency, mostly white women--the only two blacks were me and a female coworker. My coworker wore her relaxed hair cut fairly short, but sometimes she wore a weave for fullness and length. I was attempting the "long, flowing" look with highlights, but my hair was actually a little damaged from having both color and relaxer.

My white female coworkers had this idea that all black women wore weaves, so somebody was always asking me if my hair was "real". It's not like I came in with short hair one day and long hair the next; I always the same boring style everyday--can't do too much with relaxed hair, in my opinion. So it annoyed me that they constantly felt they had to ask about my hair.

Well, one day in my martial arts class, I was promoting to a higher belt, and one part of the promotion test involved breaking boards. I had to break two boards held together with one hand strike. I did break the boards, but my right hand really hurt. For the next four days, I couldn't tie my shoes, type properly on my computer, and definitely couldn't style my hair.

The night after I had the promotion test, my hair needed to be washed. I figured my boyfriend could wash and blow-dry my hair for me. Wrong! I looked a hot mess! It was already nearly time for a touch-up. My boyfriend wasn't able to get the relaxed part to smooth down and you know the roots were really jacked-up!

For about four days, my boyfriend attempted to style my hair in a bun--Boy, I wish I had pictures of that disaster to post! And, since my hand still hurt so much, and I still couldn't do anything (I'm right-handed), I went to the doctor and discovered that my hand was BROKEN. I needed a cast, and I was told that if I had waited just one more day before getting my hand checked out, they would have had to rebreak the bone that was starting to heal, reset the bone, and put a metal pin in my hand! I had what was called a boxer's fracture.

Anyway, I had to be in a cast for six weeks. So what did I do for my hair? That's right, I had to wear a 'ponytail' to work, which behooved me because I couldn't bear listening to those white girls ask me about my hair. After a few days, I went to my stylist and had a roller-set done, which lasted two weeks. I did that every two weeks until the cast finally came off.

That was one bad hair situation that eventually led to me finally going natural.

Sorry about the super long email--I just had to share.

Tobi
Karyn Owsley <karmaevek@...

Tobi-

You are so right! Then sometimes you had to become creative with a scarf or hat because you didn't want everybody seeing your new growth or your tracks showing! [INLINE] The thing I hated the most was when I would tell my hairstylist I needed to be in as early as possible and out even quicker and I would be told, "I'll be here at 7am, you'll be my first client." Then I'd get there and the stylist would have told 4 other people the same thing, not to mention the stylist would be the last one to show up to work! Plus I don't miss all the salon drama. It was like a soap opera! "As the Curlers Turn." Or "All My Clients." (Instead of All my Children.) All that for straight hair! Forget, I like kinks and knots and puffs just how they are! LOVELY and FREE and so, so ME! Keep being you and being proud of your natural do!!
Tobi-Velicia Johnson <tvelicia@...

Karyn--

Thank you for reminding us about the trials we went through while using relaxer, and your encouragement to stay natural. Dealing with relaxed hair really takes over your life--I remember making plans around my hair appointment schedule. I'd go out and socialize during the first three/four weeks after getting a relaxer, but within two weeks before an upcoming appointment, I didn't want to be seen. I'm natural for life!

Tobi
Karyn Owsley <karmaevek@...

Girl, stay strong on your journey.

Even if you did go back to perming your hair, you would still have to worry from day to day what you're going to do with it. Remember? Should I roll it tonight or wrap it? Should I add more hair? Should I take the hair I added out? Should I cut it? When was my last touch-up? Is it time for another touch-up already? How long is it going to take my hairstylist to get to me? Remember sitting in the salon long enough to get a paycheck? [INLINE] The hairstylist should have been paying you! Just hang in there. I know the road to "Naturalness" can be long and sometimes hard, but it is so worth it. Get some magazines and websites,(I'm sure our natural family here would be excited to pass on some information) Keep your eyes and ears open for local hair shows, events or just other people in your area and find out who is getting their do done where. Keep experimenting and have fun. You know you must be on the right path if your hairstylist didn't want to throw some perm back on those
roots. [INLINE]

And you know if you ever need a good word, support or advice, like they say in the South, "come on home, we'll be waiting." Enjoy you and all that you are! Many blessings to you.
"April D. Freeman" <april.freeman@...

I thank all of you for the encouragement on my journey to be myself. I wasn't not sure at the end of the day yesterday if I would remain natural or not. I went as far as getting a consultation with my old hair dresser. I have been very apprehensive in going natural, so at first I went to a texturizer. The e-mails really made me look deep within to really look at who I am and what I want to represent. Another co-worker said that she liked my hair and that one of the things that she likes about me is my attitude on "I'm ganna do me" without worrying what others say. That really solidified my decision to remain in the natural game. My hairdresser said that he would not perm my hair and wanted to see me on this journey. It is so encouraging to have folks that want to help you uplift who we are natural and not try to tear you down. I know I'm going to love this journey.

That is SO wonderful, What a experience, Im so happy for you,

Candace [INLINE] .
Nia Morson <niamorson@...

Greeting All~

I have a short experience to share with all of you. I work for a law firm and our office does a lot of notary for lost I.D.'s mainly from the Trinidadian Embassy. This older gentleman came in to get his papers notarized and with a subtle smile, looked at me and said, "Thank you sistah for loving yourself". I STARTED SMILING AND SHOWING ALL MY 32's WITH SUCH A GLEAM. Never before had anyone said "that" to me! I've heard, "your hair is pretty", "Oh! I love your Locs", "You look nice with Dreads, etc., BUT never ever someone to "thank" me.

That made feel so good and not only did he say that, but after I smiled at him and said, "thank you" in return, he then said, "You are showing such love and respect for your ancestors."

He got his papers notarized, said, "Good day my dear" and left.

I just had to share,

Nia~

THANKS AGAIN TO THE ALL MIGHTY THAT I AM ONE WHO DUG DEEP TO FIND SELF, have to give credit where it's due

Tobi-Velicia Johnson <tvelicia@...

Hi--

I purchased the book recently, and this is what it says about fabrics for hair wrapping:

"Almost any fabric can be used as a head wrap. however, some are much eaiser to work with than others. The best fabrics include cotton, gauze and jersey knit. Cotton works well because 1) it is easier to control during the wrapping process; 2) it is washable; 3) it has lots of body that can be used to create desired results; 4) it is breathable and holds less heat; and 5) it does not slip on most grades of hair. Gauze also is a great fabric for head wrapping. However, because of its sheerness, more fabric is needed to achieve desired results. Polyester, jersey and knit fabrics make great wraps. However, they hold more heat and can become uncomfortable in the warmer months of the year. Silky fabrics, in particular, are difficult to control and slip easily."

About hair oil, it says:

"Fabrics worn on the head will absorb some of the natural hiar olis. Oil the heair as often asnecessary. Avoid oiling the hair just before putting on your warap and avoid wrapping the hair too tightly. Wrapping the hair too tightly results in headaches and/or hair breakage. Also, be sure to avoid getting hair caught in the tied parts of the wrap."

The book lists 7 different ways to wrap, step-by-step and in full color. It indicates the amount fabric to use and how to care for the fabric. I think the book is worth it and it doesn't cost much.

Tobi
sunny rose <sunnyrose63@...

Thanks for the info on head wrapping, I think I'll buy the book. I've noticed some of the head wraps I've seen on the web are cotton or knit. Does anyone have suggestions on the best material for head wraps. I thought cotten would dry my hair out. Should I wrap my hair in a satin scarf, before I wrap it with a cotton or knit head wrap? Thanks in advance for any advice.

Greeting All~

I have a short experience to share with all of you. I work for a law firm and our office does a lot of notary for lost I.D.'s mainly from the Trinidadian Embassy. This older gentleman came in to get his papers notarized and with a subtle smile, looked at me and said, "Thank you sistah for loving yourself". I STARTED SMILING AND SHOWING ALL MY 32's WITH SUCH A GLEAM. Never before had anyone said "that" to me! I've heard, "your hair is pretty", "Oh! I love your Locs", "You look nice with Dreads, etc., BUT never ever someone to "thank" me.

That made feel so good and not only did he say that, but after I smiled at him and said, "thank you" in return, he then said, "You are showing such love and respect for your ancestors."

He got his papers notarized, said, "Good day my dear" and left.

I just had to share,

Nia~

THANKS AGAIN TO THE ALL MIGHTY THAT I AM ONE WHO DUG DEEP TO FIND SELF, have to give credit where it's due

Tobi-Velicia Johnson <tvelicia@...

Hi--

I purchased the book recently, and this is what it says about fabrics for hair wrapping:

"Almost any fabric can be used as a head wrap. however, some are much eaiser to work with than others. The best fabrics include cotton, gauze and jersey knit. Cotton works well because 1) it is easier to control during the wrapping process; 2) it is washable; 3) it has lots of body that can be used to create desired results; 4) it is breathable and holds less heat; and 5) it does not slip on most grades of hair. Gauze also is a great fabric for head wrapping. However, because of its sheerness, more fabric is needed to achieve desired results. Polyester, jersey and knit fabrics make great wraps. However, they hold more heat and can become uncomfortable in the warmer months of the year. Silky fabrics, in particular, are difficult to control and slip easily."

About hair oil, it says:

"Fabrics worn on the head will absorb some of the natural hiar olis. Oil the heair as often asnecessary. Avoid oiling the hair just before putting on your warap and avoid wrapping the hair too tightly. Wrapping the hair too tightly results in headaches and/or hair breakage. Also, be sure to avoid getting hair caught in the tied parts of the wrap."

The book lists 7 different ways to wrap, step-by-step and in full color. It indicates the amount fabric to use and how to care for the fabric. I think the book is worth it and it doesn't cost much.

Tobi
sunny rose <sunnyrose63@...

Thanks for the info on head wrapping, I think I'll buy the book. I've noticed some of the head wraps I've seen on the web are cotton or knit. Does anyone have suggestions on the best material for head wraps. I thought cotten would dry my hair out. Should I wrap my hair in a satin scarf, before I wrap it with a cotton or knit head wrap? Thanks in advance for any advice.

you're right...its even worst when you are out of the country. . this past year I went to Costa Rica to visit some family, and my family members as well as other people looked at me as if i was crazy because i didn't perm my hair . I'm locking my hair now, but when i was down there, i used to let my cousin twist my hair, and they look down on me.. they don't like folks with locks at all... ok sorry that i jacked this e-mail..
James Lisbon <j.lisbon@...

It's wild

because we (blacks in America) are brainwashed and deeper than that many want to be accepted by others that they do not live or represent themselves they way they want. It is also a jealous thing when other blacks comment negatively towards your hair, because when you have on a pair of slacks, shoes or jacket that they do not like-they keep it to themselves because they realize that is your choice, But when they see your hair, your bold and proud statement, deep down they want to gain some confidence from you so THEY can do it as well

that's what I think.

MY my girl first went natural -people in her family -although they ACT like they are black and proud was kinda thrown back almost ashamed (i think)-but like anything else we move on!

Welcome Brunsli--

It's funny that you mentioned you had problems with your hair because you are mixed. When I was growing up, I always felt I'd be happier with my hair if I were mixed--I didn't want straight hair exactly (that was in my teen years), I wanted what was called "good hair". But I have learned that black people all have different types of curly/kinky/nappy hair--and it's all good hair.

Tobi
Brunsli <brunsli@...

Good morning,
I was shopping at amazon when I noticed that they recommended the Naturally You! magazine -- their shopping suggestion algorithms are really good -- a little disconcerting too. I found the magazine's website, which brought me to this group. I'm looking forward to getting to know you all and here is the new member survey...
What's your screen name? Brunsli
City/State? Bay Area, CA
Loose, loced, or transitioning? locked (SL method)
How long has your hair been like it is? I started locking almost 2 years ago
How long is your hair? medium length
What are your 3 favorite products? Aveda rosemary mint shampoo & conditioner
What are your 3 favorite styles? "freestyle" or a loose set with rollers
Do you style your hair at home, or go to a salon? I go to a SL consultant to have my roots locked
If you go to a salon, which one?
What is/has been your toughest hair struggle, physical or mental? both! I'm mixed, so I didn't really learn how to do my hair growing up
Are you natural for life? Why or why not? Yes. I can't deal with the time involved, restrictions on travel, and fear of water of relaxed hair anymore. If locks don't work out, I will go back to a TWA. There's more than you probably want to know on my blog (below)
Have a great day,
Brunsli
--
http://brunsli.blogspot.com/

hey yvette. i live in vancouver, wa. i have baby
dreads. reicya2piecez@...

Hi Sharon,
What did you end up doing to your hair? Did you cut it all off or are you
transitioning and cutting little by little? Just curious. Blessings!

Good morning,
I was shopping at amazon when I noticed that they recommended the Naturally You! magazine -- their shopping suggestion algorithms are really good -- a little disconcerting too. I found the magazine's website, which brought me to this group. I'm looking forward to getting to know you all and here is the new member survey...
What's your screen name? Brunsli
City/State? Bay Area, CA
Loose, loced, or transitioning? locked (SL method)
How long has your hair been like it is? I started locking almost 2 years ago
How long is your hair? medium length
What are your 3 favorite products? Aveda rosemary mint shampoo & conditioner
What are your 3 favorite styles? "freestyle" or a loose set with rollers
Do you style your hair at home, or go to a salon? I go to a SL consultant to have my roots locked
If you go to a salon, which one?
What is/has been your toughest hair struggle, physical or mental? both! I'm mixed, so I didn't really learn how to do my hair growing up
Are you natural for life? Why or why not? Yes. I can't deal with the time involved, restrictions on travel, and fear of water of relaxed hair anymore. If locks don't work out, I will go back to a TWA. There's more than you probably want to know on my blog (below)
Have a great day,
Brunsli
--
http://brunsli.blogspot.com/

Go to afrohair.com website. Check under stylist locator for that state.

Hi April-

As long as you like your hair (and your son does)--that's all that counts. And yes, your coworkers and fellow classmates will have to get used to you being confident in yourself and with your own standards of beauty.

I can't get over your coworker acting "brand-new"--like she had never seen an afro before! Unfortunately you are experiencing the reactions of some black people towards our natural appearance. But eventually, the fact that you are sporting your 'fro will encourage other black women to go natural too.

I used to stare at women with natural hair, when I still was chained by relaxers, because I wished I had the confidence to go natural and be myself. They may have thought I was reacting in a negative way towards their natural hair choice, but it was simply admiration and envy. I never said anything derogatory. If the person was close by, I would tell her that I liked her hair.

I'm sure that many people probably were admiring it, and not saying anything.

Tobi
"April D. Freeman" <april.freeman@...

Yesterday was the first time I wore an afro to work. No one said anything, but I can tell that they wanted to say something. I was cool and just went on about my day. I spoke to a co-worker, who is also black. She looked at me as said"what happened to your hair!" I said nothing, why? Then she went on to tell me that she didn't like my hair this way and asked all kinds of questions as to what I am going to do with my hair. At first I wanted to tell her something crazy, but I just replied that you'll get used to it. I got the same reaction when I went to class at the local community college. I was a little apprehensive until I got home and my son told me that he like my hair especially with the headbands. I never experienced anything like this before and I find it funny. I am so glad that I am confident in who I am and love who I am. If I wasn't I'd still be trying to maintain what the Europeans call beautiful. I just had to get that off my chest this morning. Ankh, Udja,
Seneb (life, prosperity, & health) everyone!!!

Shoot? I know the look & the silence.... lol lol lol
Brings back lots of memories.
It has happened to me before and I work in a place with half African American personnel.
(i don't want to stereotype the south)
The only woman, that came over to compliment my hair,
that particular day was a very nice Asian woman, She
absolutely loved my hair, went on & on about it
and wondered how I got it so nice,shiny curly.
Continue to stay as beautiful & true to yourself, as you are.
No matter how you style your hair on any particular day.
Folks are strange sometimes, they get used to seeing fried & permed straight hair
in the workplace. (not knocking folks who have hair like that naturally)
but? It's almost an unspoken requirement for ethnic women in some places.
It's like serious miseducation & haters, sometimes.
Keep Your Head Up, Smile & Stay Regal.

Hello everyone,
My name is Yvette and I live in Portland,Oregon.I am so
happy I found this site.There aren't many African Ameicans in the state
of Oregon and most sisters are not into natural hair.If there are any
sisters with natural hair in the Oregon,Washington State or Califonia
Bay Area,I would love to hear from you. I'm also a Sisterlocs
Trainee.

Hello everyone,
Does anyone know of a good loctician in AL? Specifically in North
Alabama?
Thanks!
~ geminilatte

Hello Erica,
Since this is your second time around, what made you perm and what made you go back? I am in transition again, but am struggling because my hair is so long (with perm) and my hubby begged me not to cut it. I regret perming but I have no explainantion. I just know that want my natural back!

Sharon
ERICA DIXON <edixon_25@...

Hello,
My name is Erica from Maryland. This is actually m second-time-around going natural (since 8/03). As far as length, when I twist it wet, it falls right to my neck, when I blow-dry it; falls right above my shoulder. My favorite products are by Aveda (Finishing gloss & Humectant Pomade to twist), Coconut Oil Hair Shine by the Body Shop, and Elasta QP "H-Two" (detangler). Oh, and I can't forget my tortoise shell wide-tooth comb from Sally's Beauty supply. I currently wear my hair in two-strand twists or a big twist-out fro. I sometimes style my hair at home, but I prefer to have someone else do it for me. I can honestly say that I "salon-hop". My most recent visits have included Cornrows & Company (DC) and B Natural Salon & Day Spa (MD). My toughest struggle is finding the best products for my hair; it's really trial and error. Most importantly is finding a stylist to really "take care" (use of products, creativity in styling, etc.) of my hair instead of the person
whom the owner of the salon has designated to "learn how to do" natural hair b/c it's popular now and it brings in more $$ into the salon. You feel me..............
Erica
Trust-in His timing, Rely-on His promises, Wait-for His answers, Believe-in His miracles, Rejoice-in His goodness, Relax-in His presence

Clearly a book for the ages!
http://www.awarenessmagazine.net/theinterview.html
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The size of your twists are definitely based on the thickness of
your hair. Also, older twists will look fuller than freshly done
twists. Regardless of your thickness of hair, I'm sure your hair
looks gorgeous. :-) IMO, older twists look better than newer ones.

Hey there!

I too have jet black hair and was told the same thing. However I found that Bigen, and I hope that I'm spelling this right Fruictuse Hair color, works extremely well. it lightens your natural hair without damage. and without bleach. I used it to put a little dazzle in my hair and it worked very well. it also highlights well when your color starts to come back.
Nancy <n_exavier@...

Hello everyone,

I want to color my hair but the only problem is my hair is jet black. People tell me for any color to show I would have to bleach my hair. I want to avoid this if possible. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? Also if I do end up having to bleach, how would I care for it?

Peace

Hello everyone,

I want to color my hair but the only problem is my hair is jet black. People tell me for any color to show I would have to bleach my hair. I want to avoid this if possible. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? Also if I do end up having to bleach, how would I care for it?

Peace

Hi,

I'm not a new member, I've been reading all the of the good and not so good emails members have writing about natural hair. I have been natural for about four years and I'll been thinking about sisterlocks b/c I can't find anyone that can really help me get the style I'm looking for. I don't hate my hair but I don't love it either. Currently I wear it in kinky twist. The salon I go too, the lady doesn't remember from visit to visit how I like my hear. I too am looking for someone who can take care of my hair. I don't want the straight europe look, I just want my natural hair to look nice. I have about 6 inches of real sistar hair. A lot of the picures I have seen, are not real sistar hair. Does anyone know of any salons in the DC area that give that special, personal care.

Laura

ERICA DIXON <edixon_25@...

Hello,
My name is Erica from Maryland. This is actually m second-time-around going natural (since 8/03). As far as length, when I twist it wet, it falls right to my neck, when I blow-dry it; falls right above my shoulder. My favorite products are by Aveda (Finishing gloss & Humectant Pomade to twist), Coconut Oil Hair Shine by the Body Shop, and Elasta QP "H-Two" (detangler). Oh, and I can't forget my tortoise shell wide-tooth comb from Sally's Beauty supply. I currently wear my hair in two-strand twists or a big twist-out fro. I sometimes style my hair at home, but I prefer to have someone else do it for me. I can honestly say that I "salon-hop". My most recent visits have included Cornrows & Company (DC) and B Natural Salon & Day Spa (MD). My toughest struggle is finding the best products for my hair; it's really trial and error. Most importantly is finding a stylist to really "take care" (use of products, creativity in styling, etc.) of my hair instead of the person
whom the owner of the salon has designated to "learn how to do" natural hair b/c it's popular now and it brings in more $$ into the salon. You feel me..............
Erica
Trust-in His timing, Rely-on His promises, Wait-for His answers, Believe-in His miracles, Rejoice-in His goodness, Relax-in His presence

Peace to all my sisters on the board,
I've never posted before but I had to share my comments on this subject. I agree that it is offensive for a woman to say that another has a weave, and I agree that it is jealousy or just ignorance to assume some ones long black hair is fake. On the surface it doesn't seem like self hatred, but really it is. What is it that disallows some black woman to trully admire the success or beauty of another? When its natural for us to love one another? When that woman is really a reflection of ourselves? We've been bitten and poisoned by the belief (just as Kira said) that everything white was 'right' and everything black was wack. I am so happy to see more an more Black woman embrace our beautiful natural hair. I will be glad to see the day come when one Black woman will want the best for her sister, just as she wants for her own self. And for the ignorant or jealous sister that makes that comment, that is an oppotunity
for us to teach her. "Girl, most people think my hair is fake, but thats only because we didn't really know how to take care of black hair, but we can grow our hair as long as everybody else." When we exchange a negative for a positive, sometimes we can change a persons attitude. Anyway, I enclosed an attachment that details why we're sometimes so hateful of ourselves and one another. Hopefully we can begin to correct these false ideas.

Hi Ladies:

At the age of 46 how sad I am about the aspect or myths of skin color in our race. So still existant today. However when more women chose to "go natural" with their hair I found that so hopeful that we are beginning to think of ourselves as beautiful based on our standards and not those of someone else. I was even happier when I read the Afro American newspaper last week and found the article below. It is great so inspiring. I have a 13 yoa son and constantly talk to him about various things and of course the topic of girls comes up. I told him to please see a girl as a person first do not base her character on how light or dark she is that will tell you nothing.

http://www.afro.com/content/?a=4240&z=

If you would like to support these ladies here is their website: http://www.huelove.com

The number is 202.409.6881. I have already ordered 2 shirts and may give some as Kwanzaa gifts.

Cheryl (Baltimore)

What Others Think Of ME...Is Not My Business [INLINE]

-
Well, right now I'm experimenting with the no shampoo method. I wash
my hair with Suave Conditioner in the shower, at this point, I also
detangle with a wide tooth comb. Then, towel dry so it wont be
sooping wet and add, Miss Jessies BabyButtercreme to my hair. I
section my hair with my fingers and two-strand twist while it's damp.
the buttercreme protects the hair, slightly stretches the hair, and
works with my texture. During the week I add a light oil, or hair
sheen spray. Sometimes, I untwist the hair and wear it, letting it do
it's thang, until it's time to "wash" it. I found that I have less
hair breakage, and more moisture retained in my hair with this method.
from Maxine

---
I think we as women of color are too caught up with this long
hair "thing". (incuding myself) I think we should be focusing on
achieving healthy hair! It's a shame we constantly judge others
and "playa hate" instead of learning and embracing....

Hello,

My name is Erica from Maryland. This is actually m second-time-around going natural (since 8/03). As far as length, when I twist it wet, it falls right to my neck, when I blow-dry it; falls right above my shoulder. My favorite products are by Aveda (Finishing gloss & Humectant Pomade to twist), Coconut Oil Hair Shine by the Body Shop, and Elasta QP "H-Two" (detangler). Oh, and I can't forget my tortoise shell wide-tooth comb from Sally's Beauty supply. I currently wear my hair in two-strand twists or a big twist-out fro. I sometimes style my hair at home, but I prefer to have someone else do it for me. I can honestly say that I "salon-hop". My most recent visits have included Cornrows & Company (DC) and B Natural Salon & Day Spa (MD). My toughest struggle is finding the best products for my hair; it's really trial and error. Most importantly is finding a stylist to really "take care" (use of products, creativity in styling, etc.) of my hair instead of the person
whom the owner of the salon has designated to "learn how to do" natural hair b/c it's popular now and it brings in more $$ into the salon. You feel me..............
Erica
Trust-in His timing, Rely-on His promises, Wait-for His answers, Believe-in His miracles, Rejoice-in His goodness, Relax-in His presence

Received this in my inbox today:
On Friday, November 25th, Nadia Turner will host Macy's 16th Annual
Tree Lighting Ceremony at Union Square in San Francisco. She will
light the tree and sing Christmas Carols in front of an audience of
approximately 5,000 to 12,000, to benefit UCSF Children's Hospital.
This event will be aired on TV in San Francisco and on the West Coast.
Nadia will also make an appearance the next day and sign personalize
autograph photos at Movado Watch Counter in Fine Watches at Macy's
across from Union Square in San Francisco.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!
KC

To AMAG survey on natural Hair

http://www.awarenessmagazine.net/theinterview.html

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African americans are constantly taught to be proud of themselves and
their heritage...especially the skin color...we make remarks that black
is beautiful... that color is the bomb and we actually have better skin
that whites...Even M. Jackson is critisized for "changing his skin
color" and defying the race.....however, many black women alter their
hair to make it straight like whites...why? The perm eventually breaks
it off anf then we have to get braids and weave and artificial stuff.
Everything is about skin...but never hair. This is the hair we were
born with and we should be proud of that also. WE need to fall in love
with our natural heritage...trust me I have had white, spanish and
nubian friends come up to me and say.."wow ur hair is so long and
pretty like that" how do u do it?"......Love your natural hair girls
its so worth it. Be proud of your roots..we are children of the earth
Go naptural!!!

thanks:)
archivist2008 <archivist2008@...

Hi Keeza:
One natural hair dye is ShoHan. No ammonia or peroxide which really
kills natural hair and permed. Good Luck.
I will be trying it in a couple of months. Having some scalp problems
right now.
Cheryl (Maryland)
http://www.shohancosmetics.com/hair_color.htm

Peace and blessings All,
How long is your hair and what product do you use for your two-strand twists?
Crystal in Philly

"Tamara Prosper" <tgprosper@...

Hi Keeza:
One natural hair dye is ShoHan. No ammonia or peroxide which really
kills natural hair and permed. Good Luck.
I will be trying it in a couple of months. Having some scalp problems
right now.
Cheryl (Maryland)
http://www.shohancosmetics.com/hair_color.htm

What shampoos and Condtioers do you all use?What do you suggest?what
is the best?

YOU GO GIRL!!!!! [INLINE]
nappyhairnappyme <nappyhairnappyme@...

i did my third big chop today. i just love the twa.

i did my third big chop today. i just love the twa.

Hello All,

When I twist my natural hair in the two strand twist, they always turn out like small ropes. Is there a way to twist the hair to make them more plumper. In viewing some of your sites, I would definitely like for my twist to be bigger. Is there something that I'm doing wrong or is it just the different texture of natural hair?

Thanks for any advise.

Niecey

I agree with tobi - you could try the two-strand twists and wear that in a bun too ( that would be very cute) - or straw and spiral sets with rods of various sizes - that is how I grew out my hair. Or you could set it in braids or twists ( rolling the ends) and take them out for a twist/braid release style - Depending on where you live, you may not want your ends exposed - it is like 10 degrees here in WI.

Hope that helps - it will make your journey that much sweeter to keep the perm and transition out - I learned a lot from it.

Lina

You could wear 2 strand twists for a while, or get cornrows. Have you ever thought of wearing sister locs. That can me done while your hair is permed but like regular locs, I don't think they can be undone.

Be a blessing to someone and you will be blessed

[INLINE] Tamara Gaskins Prosper

Hi Ladies...I am not getting the music site...I typed in Maverickwear.com
a web result page came up and I clicked on scarves. Sorry for all the
changes...but its there..have a nice weekend

Hi--

Does anyone know an online retailer that sells large swimming caps for locs? My son has swimming for the entire school year--regular swimming caps just don't fit and he doesn't want his locs wet everyday. Thanks.

Tobi
Leila James <LovelyJ45@...

Hi Ladies...I am not getting the music site...I typed in Maverickwear.com
a web result page came up and I clicked on scarves. Sorry for all the
changes...but its there..have a nice weekend

Hi I just went to the website...type maverickwear.com...when u get to the
web results you will see scarves and bonnets..click on that.

Naturally You! Magazine is publishing a feature on people who have cut
off their locs.
If you fit that description, please send in your responses to the
following questions by November 24th:
- When did you start your locs? Why?
- Did your reason for growing them change as they grew?
- When did you cut them and why?
- What kinds of responses did you get from family, friends, or
coworkers throughout your process, particularly surrounding cutting
them off?
- Did cutting your locs affect your romantic relationship(s)? Why or
why not?
- Did your job, or lack thereof, affect your decision?
Please include a high resolution photo of yourself before and after to
be included with your response if selected, and your full name, city
and state.
*Note that responses will be edited for length and clarity, with great
care to retain your meaning.
Please share with anyone who may be interested in participating.
Email responses to submissions@...
Kaya Casper, Publisher

Has anyone ever tried this shampoo?, if so how is it?.. I'm thinking about switching my shampoo.

Ashley My Website:www.retrowriting.com- Retro Writing Zine

Hi Lona and All:
I have mid-back length locs and have worn my hair this way for 14
years. I have always had a very dry scalp as well as hair and now at
46 yrs of age it is even drier. I use Nature's Blessings hair pomade
and it is great. I oil my scalp in the winter about every 2 or 3 days.
I also spritz my locs with water first then oil it. The oil keeping
more of the moisture on my scalp and hair. I also rub vitamin E
capsules about once a week on my scalp. Below is the website for the
hair oil. I am getting ready to try the Carol's Daugther's products.
Any yeh or nays concerning these products I would apppreciate.
Cheryl (Maryland)
http://www.houseofnubian.com/IBS/SimpleCat/Product/asp/product-
id/30086.html

I am so sorry for the wrong info for the satin sleep cap...the correct
website is MaverickWear.com

Hotep!

I too went to the website and it's a music industry website and its' store does not have merchandise for hair. I am very much interested in finding out this scarf.

I did find this website: http://denisereed.com/

Peace and Blessings

R.T. Askew

Greetings,
I'm interested in this scarf as well. Went to the website listed below. Didn't see anything regarding the scarf.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
lf

Thank you for sharing Mia's site. Being an ex-New Yorker now residing in TX I have missed being surrounded by places where I could shop easily for my natural ethnic hair needs and accessories. I stripped to natural in early 90's and locked my tresses. It was a wonderful transformation and continues to be confirmed as the right thing to do in every way (mind, body, spirit).
"Mia Simone's Boutique ." <wrightmia@...

Could your locs benefit from a little adornment? If so then visit Mia
Simone's Boutique to see the wide selection of hair jewelry for your locs.
HAIR TOGGLES:
The longer your hair gets the more you may feel the urge wear styles that
allow you to sometimes wear your hair up or off your face. If so then check
out our Hair Toggles. http://www.miasb.com
HAIR DANGLES:
Who says you can't beauty 100% beautiful sporting your lovely locs! You can
and you can also adorn your locs with Hair Dangles by Mia Simone.
http://www.miasb.com
BODY JEWELRY:
Right now we are having a sale on about 95% of our jewelry. Don't wait, get
it while its on sale. Are you looking for that perfect gift for someone or
maybe yourself? Well, visit Mia Simone's Boutique to see the large variety
of accessories made just for you. http://www.miasb.com
HAIR & SKIN CARE:
Mia Simone is a designer with over 10 years of experience making unique
one-of-a-kind and limited edition jewelry and 100% natural skin and hair
care products. Are your locs dry, weak or do you simply want to maintain the
overall health of your locs? Did I hear you say yes? Well, if so then visit
the on-line boutique. Mia Simone has customers from England, Canada,
Netherlands and the United States. You are welcome to see our testimonial
page...check out what people are saying!
http://www.miasb.com
MONTHLY SALES:
Don't forget to visit our "Sale Items & More" page each time you visit to
see what's on sale. Mia Simone has many free gifts, special offers and
contest so stop by, relax and shop from the comfort of your home.
http://www.miasb.com
From,
Mia Simone's Boutique
http://www.miasb.com
Accessories by Mia Simone
http://www.miasimone.net
Other Places To Shop on the Internet
http://www.ShopTalkLady.com

The BC is the "big chop"--cutting your hair really short to get rid of all the relaxed hair. Or to cut off the damaged hair to start over.
Normia Carter <grayroses3@...

Aloha,

What is the BC ?
Tobi-Velicia Johnson <tvelicia@...

Hi--

You might want to try the "no poo" method for washing your hair--washing with conditioner, and then using a light oil (almond, jojoba) on your hair when it's still damp.

Tobi
BlackButtahFly <naturallynatasha@...

Hi All my other Lovely Nappturals [INLINE]

I finally got my hair page up on Fotki check it out when you have the chance and PLEASE feel free to give me any suggestions because even though my hair is short I'm running through ALOT of products because my hair is just drinkin up everything. LOL I sure hope this isn't scab hair. But Oh well. It's nothing fancy hopefully fancy will come later. I'm just trying to document my progress and what works and doesn't for my hair. :-) My Hair is fine but it seems dry lately. There will be constant updates so please stop by:-)

-Natasha [INLINE]

http://public.fotki.com/NaturallyNatasha/

A Woman's Prayer:
Dear Lord,
I pray for: Wisdom, To understand a man.
Love, To forgive him and; Patience, For his moods.
Because, Lord, if I pray for Strength I'll just beat him to death

Hi Sharon--

Maybe you could smooth your edges with a light pomade and then wear your hair in a bun.

Tobi
sharon wilson <sharonmrn96@...

Hello Ladies (Hey Petrolina!)
I was natural for 2 1/2 years and I'm not sure what happened but I permed my hair August 2005 and I hate it! I got 1 touch up to see if I wanted to keep it up but I am convinced that I want my natural back.I blow dried my hair this morning and was disgusted to see my hair on the floor. I have been reading all of your emails and have been so inspired to come back. My only dilemma is that my husband asked my NOT to cut my hair. MY hair is down my back and I need help transitioning again as when I transitioned the last time I cut my hair off to a TWA. He stopped talking to me for a week. The texture of my hair natural is like Roshini ( and by the way Roshini your hair is gorgeous!!!) Besides braids, does anyone have any advice?

Sharon
Tamara Prosper <tgprosper@...

thanks. I have family in the DC area. Maybe they can get some of those products for me. I'm in New Orleans and many of the stylist who were here are not returning. Houston, Atlanta and many other areas have just gotten some great new hair dressers. Hopefully I can find someone here whose shop and home aren't ruined and is planning to stay. I'm glad that I can order products online.

Be a blessing to someone and you will be blessed

[INLINE] Tamara Gaskins Prosper

Hello Ladies (Hey Petrolina!)
I was natural for 2 1/2 years and I'm not sure what happened but I permed my hair August 2005 and I hate it! I got 1 touch up to see if I wanted to keep it up but I am convinced that I want my natural back.I blow dried my hair this morning and was disgusted to see my hair on the floor. I have been reading all of your emails and have been so inspired to come back. My only dilemma is that my husband asked my NOT to cut my hair. MY hair is down my back and I need help transitioning again as when I transitioned the last time I cut my hair off to a TWA. He stopped talking to me for a week. The texture of my hair natural is like Roshini ( and by the way Roshini your hair is gorgeous!!!) Besides braids, does anyone have any advice?

Sharon
Tamara Prosper <tgprosper@...

thanks. I have family in the DC area. Maybe they can get some of those products for me. I'm in New Orleans and many of the stylist who were here are not returning. Houston, Atlanta and many other areas have just gotten some great new hair dressers. Hopefully I can find someone here whose shop and home aren't ruined and is planning to stay. I'm glad that I can order products online.

Be a blessing to someone and you will be blessed

[INLINE] Tamara Gaskins Prosper

Could your locs benefit from a little adornment? If so then visit Mia
Simone's Boutique to see the wide selection of hair jewelry for your locs.
HAIR TOGGLES:
The longer your hair gets the more you may feel the urge wear styles that
allow you to sometimes wear your hair up or off your face. If so then check
out our Hair Toggles. http://www.miasb.com
HAIR DANGLES:
Who says you can't beauty 100% beautiful sporting your lovely locs! You can
and you can also adorn your locs with Hair Dangles by Mia Simone.
http://www.miasb.com
BODY JEWELRY:
Right now we are having a sale on about 95% of our jewelry. Don't wait, get
it while its on sale. Are you looking for that perfect gift for someone or
maybe yourself? Well, visit Mia Simone's Boutique to see the large variety
of accessories made just for you. http://www.miasb.com
HAIR & SKIN CARE:
Mia Simone is a designer with over 10 years of experience making unique
one-of-a-kind and limited edition jewelry and 100% natural skin and hair
care products. Are your locs dry, weak or do you simply want to maintain the
overall health of your locs? Did I hear you say yes? Well, if so then visit
the on-line boutique. Mia Simone has customers from England, Canada,
Netherlands and the United States. You are welcome to see our testimonial
page...check out what people are saying!
http://www.miasb.com
MONTHLY SALES:
Don't forget to visit our "Sale Items & More" page each time you visit to
see what's on sale. Mia Simone has many free gifts, special offers and
contest so stop by, relax and shop from the comfort of your home.
http://www.miasb.com
From,
Mia Simone's Boutique
http://www.miasb.com
Accessories by Mia Simone
http://www.miasimone.net
Other Places To Shop on the Internet
http://www.ShopTalkLady.com

A lot of people (including myself) are doing box braids on their natural hair for the winter. check out these sites for many style options:

www.roshini.net
http://public.fotki.com/melanizm13
http://public.fotki.com/realbme1
http://public.fotki.com/okorolina40 ( I just started doing the box braids and it is really fun!)

hope that helps - if not, there are so many styles to choose from!!!

Lina

Hey black buttafly!! Your pics are great - I use most of the kitchen products you have posted on the haircare album - and your hair is growing in quickly! May I also recommend a B complex with your Vitamin E - to assist with absorption, energy and metabolism?- these factors can all affect the hair, particularly in winter and under times of stress. This is a water-soluble vitamin, so you can take it 2-3x per day depending on the mg, and with food or a big glass of OJ.

Very nice album - I wanted to leave comments but you did not open a guestbook. You would have to go to account properties and select that option in order for other people to make comments ( I have an album too, thats how I know :0) a few more updates for me, but I'm getting a little bored, so I'm working on some changes for the new year.....
http://public.fotki.com/okorolina40 I also have some other links that may be useful there as well as other friends' albums saved.

I am looking forward to seeing more pics - Digital cameras are great, arent they?

Many blessings,
Lina

Thanks nubian queen. You can also view my other pics at:
http://public.fotki.com/qochemist
http://public.fotki.com/qochemist1
http://public.fotki.com/qochemist2
I really appreciate you taking out the time to view my pics. I love
styling my own hair and trying to share my trial and error with
other naturals.
Q

Hotep!

Your hair is simply beautiful. I wish I had the guts years ago to cut my hair that close. It truly suits you and brings out your beauty. Only us Africans Queens can rock a TWA. Work the accessories my sister, work it!!! Enjoy the journey.

Peace and Blessings

R.T. Askew

I am so glad to have found this group! I'm still new to it so I haven't
really participated much but am learning so much and appreciate the
support in embracing my natural hair. I haven't relaxed my hair since
May 2005. I have about 2 1/2 inches of natural hair with about 4 inches
of relaxed hair on the ends. Twists are great even though I have to use
a styling gel to keep them together. But I can wear them for only about
a week since they come apart when I wet my hair (I shampoo every week).
I'd like to have a couple more inches of natural hair to work with
before I do the BC.
Anyone have any suggestions for natural, moisturing shampoos that aren't
really expensive?

Hi All my other Lovely Nappturals [INLINE]

I finally got my hair page up on Fotki check it out when you have the chance and PLEASE feel free to give me any suggestions because even though my hair is short I'm running through ALOT of products because my hair is just drinkin up everything. LOL I sure hope this isn't scab hair. But Oh well. It's nothing fancy hopefully fancy will come later. I'm just trying to document my progress and what works and doesn't for my hair. :-) My Hair is fine but it seems dry lately. There will be constant updates so please stop by:-)

-Natasha [INLINE]

http://public.fotki.com/NaturallyNatasha/

A Woman's Prayer:
Dear Lord,
I pray for: Wisdom, To understand a man.
Love, To forgive him and; Patience, For his moods.
Because, Lord, if I pray for Strength I'll just beat him to death

Qochemist: I tremendously enjoyed viewing your photo albums and the stages
of your different nappy styles. Thanks for taking the time to share with
other nappy sistahs.

Hang in their Girl, Its worth it [INLINE] .......

Good Luck,

Candace

Warda Brédy <wbredy@...

Hi everybody, i've had i perm ever since i was 13 and i'm 24 now, i
stop putting perm since may 2005, and yesterday i went to the barber
shop and cut off all the perm, so now i'm wearing a little boyish cut,
but at least it's natural, i feel so free. Just wanted to share my
experience with yall!!!!!!!!!

Hi everybody, i've had i perm ever since i was 13 and i'm 24 now, i
stop putting perm since may 2005, and yesterday i went to the barber
shop and cut off all the perm, so now i'm wearing a little boyish cut,
but at least it's natural, i feel so free. Just wanted to share my
experience with yall!!!!!!!!!

Hello everyone.

I haven't participated much with all the discussions that this group has had. I still consider myself a newbie in my natural journey...I've been totally natural for one year. I wanted to know if anyone knew of any good hair styles for the winter. I've worn my hair in twists/twistouts for the past year, and I want to try something new.

Thanks a million for all your help,

Candice

Yaaay [INLINE] Another Queen converterted. I don't know why hearing about a sista coming over to the natural side makes me so happy. LOL....1 down just a few more to go...............
candace biglow <mscandypatterson@...

Hi Everyone!

I just wanted to share my 1st really "Postive Natural Exprience". I was in my Normal braid shop waiting to get my hair Braided. The night before I washed and conditioned my hair and just slid it back in a pony tail(nothing fancy at all, believe me! [INLINE] ). While waiting in the waiting room at the shop, a permed Sista walked in to get her hair braided. After she sat a while, she turned to me and said "How did you get your hair like that?". I said "Who me?". She said "Yes, Your hair is beautiful!!" So I explained to her my personal process of swaying away from perms, and she said "Girl Im through Im through with Perms!!!, and thanked me for my advice". I felt even MORE prouder to be a Natural Sista, and also helped a Sista out...... [INLINE]

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A Woman's Prayer:
Dear Lord,
I pray for: Wisdom, To understand a man.
Love, To forgive him and; Patience, For his moods.
Because, Lord, if I pray for Strength I'll just beat him to death

Hi Everyone!

I just wanted to share my 1st really "Postive Natural Exprience". I was in my Normal braid shop waiting to get my hair Braided. The night before I washed and conditioned my hair and just slid it back in a pony tail(nothing fancy at all, believe me! [INLINE] ). While waiting in the waiting room at the shop, a permed Sista walked in to get her hair braided. After she sat a while, she turned to me and said "How did you get your hair like that?". I said "Who me?". She said "Yes, Your hair is beautiful!!" So I explained to her my personal process of swaying away from perms, and she said "Girl Im through Im through with Perms!!!, and thanked me for my advice". I felt even MORE prouder to be a Natural Sista, and also helped a Sista out...... [INLINE]

They usually have lots of flowers at those accessory stores like
Claire's. I've also found flowers in stores like Kohl's, Wal-Mart and even
CVS one time when I was in a pinch.
Ronnie

Thanks Tobi,
I appreciate you taking out the time to view my album and give
feedback.
Q

What products do you use on your hair and how often do you wash?
I stopped relaxing August 2001, but my hair has only really started to
thrive in the last year. I damaged my natural hair with heat and I
didn't use products that really worked for my hair. I used to have bad
dandruff and the turning point for me was when I stopped using oil and
oil based products, stopped using shampoos that contain sulfates,
started washing with conditioner on a regular basis, and started
drinking water and putting water on my hair when it is dry.

Ok Chava,
I am proud of the fact that you have been natural for 8 years. That says a lot
that you have not become frustrated before now, since you described the issues
that you are having. I cannot attest to be eight years natural, but I am 4
years natural. I am loving the journey and want to share some of my tips.
1. Less is more - don't worry about the growth; worry about the healthiness of
your hair. I went from 8 inches of natural hair growth to just deciding that I
would like to keep a twa which I currently have now - and I love the style on
me.
2. You can have long hair by keeping your hair in less manipulative styles (I
kept twisted and twist out styles and varied on them e.g. curly twist - while
achieving growth)
3. Condition, condition, condition and protect your hair while sleeping.
4. Once you get a routine down, try not to change too often. (e.g. condition,
twist - keep in for a few weeks, rinsing every so often and repeat).
5. Trimming works for some but I trimmed only twice a year. I did it myself
and just did that when I noticed hair knots forming.
Hope this helps.......good luck and don't give up on your natural journey!

you can go to Claires, your local Beauty Supply store, walmart, target,etc..
BlackButtahFly <naturallynatasha@...

Thanks.

Thats true I've already found alot of new thinsg to try just looking at random discussions I'm glad I joined. Black women should be so proud we are blessed with this hair on our heads hair full of wonder and majesty NO one has what we have anyone can imitate straight. lol

By the By does anyone know where I can buy hair flower clips or brastrap headbands? [INLINE]
Tobi-Velicia Johnson <tvelicia@...

Hi--

Welcome to the group.

I'm sorry that your best friend seems to not accept your quest to stay natural. My own best friend of 20 years (we're 39 and 38) still relaxes her hair, but she often compliments my locs.

When I first told her that I was going to go natural and loc my hair, my hairstyle was long, relaxed, highlighted, and "flipped up" on the ends. She said, "But your hair is so pretty the way it is--I can't imagine you in locs!"

Now she, among my family and other friends, say that the loced style looks great and can't believe I waited so long to do it--my locs are now about shoulder-length.

So--stay strong--you'll meet a lot of people who may not like your look, but you'll meet more people who will admire you for making a personal decision go natural. And you'll receive a lot of support from this group.

Tobi
BlackButtahFly <naturallynatasha@...

What's your screen name?: NaturallyNatasha

City/State? Alabama

Loose, loced, or transitioning? Loose......Finally FREE

How long has your hair been like it is?I Did the BC on September 18th This year to 1/8 of an inch

How long is your hair? My first trim was today and Now I can officially say have 1/2 inch of hair :-)
What are your 3 favorite products? Olive Oil, Suave Tropical Coconut Conditioner and Jasmine Essential oil.

What are your 3 favorite styles? Puff, Fro, and Twist outs :-)

Do you style your hair at home, or go to a salon? At Home

What is/has been your toughest hair struggle, physical or mental? No support from friends the one I call my "best friend" (of 20 years, I'm only 23) as SOOON as she saw me natural made a reference for me to get some relaxer that hurt. Like she was ashamed and or scared for me. (My hair is cute by the way) I asked her Why am I not allowed to be me....sure enough she had no answer.

Are you natural for life? Why or why not? NO DOUBT NATURAL FOR LIFE. This is my third time starting this journey. I think it's because my body knows whats right for me..and I keep ignoring it .....which is probably why I keep cutting my hair :-) also I'm a Hair Designer. I can master any style, weave ,relaxed etc. but I think it it's sad that I'm not familiar with my OWN God given hair.

A Woman's Prayer:
Dear Lord,
I pray for: Wisdom, To understand a man.
Love, To forgive him and; Patience, For his moods.
Because, Lord, if I pray for Strength I'll just beat him to death

B"SD
okay so i almost said that "i hate my hair" but that's just going a
little too far. i really love it, and when it looks good i'm soo
pleased, but the thing is that i've been natural for maybe eight
years or so. (stopped perming around high school time) but i don't
remember my hair ever being longer than around four inches. now, i
don't think my mom (love her to death) never really knew what to do
with my hair - she'd jerry curl it (sp?), press it, oh just imagine
anything in the world, it was probably done to my hair. and once i
got to high school i started dying it and just basically treating it
badly. now that's i've been natural for so long, my hair is about 4
inches long, still. and my scalp.. it's a _disaster_ area. it's a
mess. it's always itchy and flaky and scabby (!). it's awful. i
know that hair grows, and i don't really buy into the whole "maximum
growth potential" stuff, because i believe that hair grows no matter
what! i don't think that just because my hair is "highly
texturized," it won't grow. i just don't know what to do. i have
recently found this group and others and i really feel like i'm
starting all over. someone help! i want to cut it all off but my
husband won't let me (he got mad when i trimmed it the other day! i
was hoping it would help my situation - i NEVER trim my hair). i'm
really convinced that once i start (finally! for the first time in my
life) treating my hair the way it wants to be treated, it will be
healthy and beautiful.
but how do i do that?
okay i'm sorry for this rambling mess.. i'm just so happy that i
have someone to talk to about this!
-chava

Greetings,
I've gotten some really nice flowers from rite-aid, believe it or not.
A black leather rose, was only 4.99. (I scooped that up! )
Also try millinery & hat making supply shops and fabric stores (sewing accents aisle) .
Also at some, area Burlington coat factories, reasonable priced usually near the
silk scarves, gloves & hat aisle.
When Tamu 's page gets back up and running they have seriously nice leather hair belts
and hairbands & hair ties.
Take Care! pics from TamuStudio's page
http://www.tamustudio.com/
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another thing, I like - ornate hairsticks & hair forks.
http://www.argusdesigns.com/products/index.html

Thanks.

Thats true I've already found alot of new thinsg to try just looking at random discussions I'm glad I joined. Black women should be so proud we are blessed with this hair on our heads hair full of wonder and majesty NO one has what we have anyone can imitate straight. lol

By the By does anyone know where I can buy hair flower clips or brastrap headbands? [INLINE]
Tobi-Velicia Johnson <tvelicia@...

Hi--

Welcome to the group.

I'm sorry that your best friend seems to not accept your quest to stay natural. My own best friend of 20 years (we're 39 and 38) still relaxes her hair, but she often compliments my locs.

When I first told her that I was going to go natural and loc my hair, my hairstyle was long, relaxed, highlighted, and "flipped up" on the ends. She said, "But your hair is so pretty the way it is--I can't imagine you in locs!"

Now she, among my family and other friends, say that the loced style looks great and can't believe I waited so long to do it--my locs are now about shoulder-length.

So--stay strong--you'll meet a lot of people who may not like your look, but you'll meet more people who will admire you for making a personal decision go natural. And you'll receive a lot of support from this group.

Tobi
BlackButtahFly <naturallynatasha@...

What's your screen name?: NaturallyNatasha

City/State? Alabama

Loose, loced, or transitioning? Loose......Finally FREE

How long has your hair been like it is?I Did the BC on September 18th This year to 1/8 of an inch

How long is your hair? My first trim was today and Now I can officially say have 1/2 inch of hair :-)
What are your 3 favorite products? Olive Oil, Suave Tropical Coconut Conditioner and Jasmine Essential oil.

What are your 3 favorite styles? Puff, Fro, and Twist outs :-)

Do you style your hair at home, or go to a salon? At Home

What is/has been your toughest hair struggle, physical or mental? No support from friends the one I call my "best friend" (of 20 years, I'm only 23) as SOOON as she saw me natural made a reference for me to get some relaxer that hurt. Like she was ashamed and or scared for me. (My hair is cute by the way) I asked her Why am I not allowed to be me....sure enough she had no answer.

Are you natural for life? Why or why not? NO DOUBT NATURAL FOR LIFE. This is my third time starting this journey. I think it's because my body knows whats right for me..and I keep ignoring it .....which is probably why I keep cutting my hair :-) also I'm a Hair Designer. I can master any style, weave ,relaxed etc. but I think it it's sad that I'm not familiar with my OWN God given hair.

A Woman's Prayer:
Dear Lord,
I pray for: Wisdom, To understand a man.
Love, To forgive him and; Patience, For his moods.
Because, Lord, if I pray for Strength I'll just beat him to death

thx all! i am in the pacific nw & i even found it in
fred meyers health & beauty section.

my walgreens/cvs sells them (burts bees) and so does my pic-n-save grocery (if you are in the midwest)

Lina

hey sis just checking to see if you were online...love ya!! [INLINE] <---me jammin on the one!!
A Friend is...
Someone who knows the song in your heart and can sing it back to you when you have forgotten the words...

[INLINE] WELCOME FRIEND! [INLINE]
"May Your Day Be Blessed In Jesus!" -DOREEN

Hi,
What's your screen name?
My screen name is Mochalicious2000
City/State?
Conroe,Texas
Loose, loced, or transitioning?
I wear my hair loose in a TWA
How long has your hair been like it is?
6 Months
How long is your hair?
Right now it is probably 2 1/2 inches
What are your 3 favorite products?
All BY Qhemet Biologics: Amla & Olive Heavy Cream,Olive & Honey
Hydrating Balm & Karite Nut Curl Milk, Ladies these products are the
Bomb and I have 4b hair that is thick dry and rough but not anymore
since I started using these products,They give me the softness and
moisture I need and it last all day long, these products saved me
from turning to a texturizer because I was getting frustrated with
the dryness of my hair,You can drink water til the cows come home
and my hair was still dry and I have a very good diet,These are my
staples.
What are your 3 favorite styles?
All I can wear now is a Twa which soon will not be that anymore.
Do you style your hair at home, or go to a salon?
I style at home I can't afford a salon.
What is/has been your toughest hair struggle, physical or mental?
My only toughest hair struggle was the dryness of my hair and
getting to learn what works for my natural hair,I have not had any
negative comments or stares all I have gotten is praise and people
wishing they had the guts,I don't think it is guts I thinkit is that
people worry too much about what other people think and I don't,I
only have to answer to 2 people and that is God & Me I don't give a
sh** about what anybody else thinks,I feel so good knowing that I
don't have to spend money everymonth like $70 to go to the salon for
a perm and wrap and flat iron etc. I love my natural hair and it
shows,I love me,My Husband is my Biggest Fan and my daughter to, I
have support all around me,I know that there will be those who talk
behind my back and that is exactley where they will stay BEHIND me,I
love